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Moab Support Forum > Roll Marks on Entrada

Recently printed some images on a partially used roll of Entrada 190 Natural 17". Towards the end of the roll, there are distinct horizontal marks running the entire width of the roll, about 1/4" wide. They aren't printer banding or misprints, but embedded in the paper itself. Looks to me like a defect. Anybody else have this problem?

The roll was sitting in the printer for maybe three weeks. Nothing bearing up against it to cause an out of round situation. But it marred several of the prints, and cost me some media.

April 16, 2012 | Unregistered CommenterJim Parker

Jim-

Could you please send us a sample of the issue? Please email me at andy@legionpaper.com and we can look into it. Thanks so much.

April 20, 2012 | Registered CommenterMoab Paper Support

Are you seeing a discoloration in the paper or a kind of "warped" effect in the paper?

I see the "warped" effect on every roll of Entrada 190 I print on (usually 24" rolls). It seems to be caused by the very end of the paper that is attached to the inner core--the edge of the paper is a kind of hard edge which sticks into the layers above it, causing a physical banding or warping (not a discoloration) on several layers at the end of the roll.

I've just accepted it and I don't use the last 3-4 layers or so of the roll, which is a shame because it's a waste of paper. Entrada is a soft paper and the 190 is thin so there may be no way to get around this.

If there is some way to fix this, though, I would love for Moab to find out how.

-David

June 5, 2012 | Unregistered CommenterDavid

Sorry I didn't see your response earlier, Andy. Sent you an email.

David, I think it is roll overlap too. It's a warped effect, and takes a certain light to see it. Under glass, it is barely imperceptible, but for an archival rag stock, it's unacceptable.

Breathing Color gets around it with their canvas, by using padded cores. Not sure if that's an acceptable solution to Moab, however. It does work. It seems more pronounced on some rolls more than others. It may take some force on the roll, or overwinding to cause the problem to be really visible.

June 5, 2012 | Unregistered CommenterJim P

Jim,

Just curious if you ever received a reply from Moab about this issue. The last roll I just finished was worse than usual, the warping was noticeable on up to the last 8-10 layers, and that's a lot of paper to waste if I can't print on it.

I do hope Moab will find a solution to this.

July 3, 2012 | Unregistered CommenterDavid

David, I did hear from Andy on this. They asked me to send a sample. Unfortunately, that roll was long gone, and the end of it, too. (I replied to them via private email).

August 8, 2012 | Unregistered CommenterJim P

Well, I will jump in as well.

I have the same problem with the 44" Entrada 300 weight paper. Always get those pressure marks on the last 4 to 6 winds.

My solution has been to stop using the end of my rolls for final prints, but keep them and use them to test prints.

Of course, it would be better it they did not exist, but this system seems to balance out in the long run.

mat

November 12, 2012 | Unregistered Commentermat lombardi